Welcome to Glocks, Do the RSA's need lube? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just got a new spring today. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. Haha. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. JavaScript is disabled. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Found the culprit. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. Just curious as to what Glock said. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. Is it safe to shoot? I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. January 3, 2004 in Glock. - Bren. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. Clear editor. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. I can swap the sli. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. You are using an out of date browser. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Haha. Great info thank you. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. I could measure how it was off. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. Your link has been automatically embedded. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Great info! I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. can your extractor move freely? Upload or insert images from URL. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. Hopefully that's all it was. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Nick29 Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. Any ideas on what the issue might be? May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. Im a little ahead of you on this path. JavaScript is disabled. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. I noticed this after a cleaning. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. One new winner* is announced every week! I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Im a little ahead of you on this path. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Display as a link instead, JavaScript is disabled. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. The Barbie dolls are mine. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. Lord, make me fast and accurate. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. All Rights Reserved. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Does anyone have any suggestions? I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? Haha.). If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Sorry about that. Its never happened with the factory barrel. Thanks. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? Have you tried the field test for the RSA? I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Paste as plain text instead, For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? Is this RSA going to $hit already? It did shoot fine. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. You cannot paste images directly. Thank you! I will look into buying some calipers. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. UPDATE! I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. Upload or insert images from URL. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. Who knows. 20+ is for 10mm. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. Oh its not a logical move. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Have you tried shooting it? Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. It was a good deal, and now I know why. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. One new winner* is announced every week! try firing it. The problem is when the slide slams forward. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I was not really paying attention to what he did. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Your previous content has been restored. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. You can post now and register later. Also do you have another 17 handy? I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Thank you for that great info! Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. I think I had a similar problem once. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Interesting. Everything else seems to be working fine. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. What do your used primers look like? I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Your previous content has been restored. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. No lube should be needed on RSA. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. Paste as plain text instead, BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. What load you firing? Have you tried a different firing pin spring? It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. 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