* honeywell gas valve water, Slide ribbon wires clip housing, front gas valve free. One other thing I could mention and that is there is likely more to this story than what is apparent. Im keeping your method in my hip pocket, though, because it is much simpler. So, again Sears says they need to send a repair guy out. Who came up with the dumbass design that when you turn the dial to a normal, albeit high, position, it breaks the water heater? So to all of you, thank you! What number did you call? The manual, and Sears parts deptartment, told me I needed a new control valve at $150. Wow, amazing! This is the second time Ive had to replace the valve. > Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? F Im so mad I want to shoot the prick who cornered the market on Honeywells crap. Tyler, I will be buying a copy of your book to show support for you hosting this thread and helping to save people a LOT of $$. Thanks that was a big help and a $$ saver. Plan the installation as outlined below Thank you! For sure theyre going to have a lot of unhappy customers. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. These Honeywell gas controls include a manual gas valve, safety shutoff, single millivoltage automatic operator, and pressure regulator, pilot gas filter and flow adjustment, pressure tapping, and thermocouple connector. Wouldnt it make more sense to not let the dial go that high? I tried several times, and flushed the tank. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! I am getting NO Flash from the led light. any suggestions ? I was getting the 8-3 flashing code which said to replace the Gas Control Valve. Perhaps others with faulty valves may have begun their collapse in a similar fashion, but were not noticed until the hot water turned cold people dont usually babysit a water heater. Wife called whirlpool Monday. So while they said just use the sealant through out, I actually used a combination of both. I ended up doing this and it worked like magic. I saw some white crystals come out but not that bad. and then it might come back on or not. Although, the first time I did it, I only let it sit for about a half hour like he did, and I still got the 4 blinks and it wouldnt light. New valve on the way from Whirlpool. Switched back to the old board and still couldnt get it to work. Removed the old cover and board and replaced it with the new one. But- I havent tried it so go with this method. So thanks to commenters earlier, before, and above. As info only for the less mechanical people out there, if you lay down on your back and look through the sight glass window, it makes lighting your pilot very easy. When I put it back together, it still flashed 4 lights and only the pilot would light. Its an excellent description, and if you dont already have the new valve, I suggest you try that first. https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251. Ill let you know in a year! I let the water sit until the water in it is no longer hotthe last shower usually takes care of that. Next, there are at least two variations of this unit. Heater is only 7 months old. If I had found this earlier I would have saved the next day shipping and done the $10 one. But they knew nothing about that. As for Kenmore and Sears they would send a replacement part our for $185.00 and 2-5 days delivery or since the part is under warranty I could pay $79.00 and wait for a service appointment, then wait for the replacement part to be shipped for me to install. Plus the cost of the above repairs. Bioluminescent Reindeer and the Value of Diversity. (day job of electrical engineer). I did order free replacement the part and went for the free ground ship to Calif as well as i had faith in you guys thatthe tips would work before the part got here. So in my opinion, WAIT the extra day and save yourself the $20.One thing Johnathon DID request was I send the old one back and that he would place a return label in the packageWell I live 23 miles from town and not going to do a rush job for thatAND I kinda put the replacement on standby and like DB saidClearing the fault it may last for days or MONTHS before it does it again! If it does not open then that means the pilot did not stay on. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. Miller MightyLite Leading Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. I am calling the plumber who installed it. Only the technically adept or handy should do attempt this. There is no pilot, it just ignites completely as needed with electronic ignitor. like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! I have always had it at one above on A. This tank was flushed six months ago to install the current control valve. 4:Follow directions to lite the pilot-light. Just install the board with the cover removed as outlined. Thanks for the submission. I then end up on the Low setting. Folks, here is the problem with this controller design. they refused to sell me a new control///, i will not buy awhirlpool; any thing again////////////. In any event, my thanks to all of you who suggested steps to take in this matter. I did the trick with a AA battery and some cheap speaker wire. Flushing the tank briefly seems to be a pre-requisite for this fix, so do that first. Also, is the setpoint continuously variable as the dial is turned, or are the labeled settings stepped and all there are? We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! If the heating chamber gets too hot, the button pops out and the pilot will never light until you push it back in. We had a power outage and the codes are switching from the 4 beat to the 7 beat to the heartbeat . Ive been reading through all this information, but other than learning the honeywell unit is a POS, I havent figured out my problem. We shall see how long this lasts. Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. I am trying to get an idea of how reliable the soluton is. First Responder. The bottom pin is ground ((-) on the battery)Connect the (-) negative of the battery there with a clip lead. Contemplated telling my wife and child to go take a ride around the block while I finished it up, but was confident everything was solid and ready. If I had just changed out the circuit boards on the old control valve Id not have gained the better sensor. Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. Note the LED flash sequence. The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. WV8840B1110 has been discontinued Discontinued December 15, 2019 This product was discontinued by the manufacturer. This does not seem to be documented anywhere. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. Light the pilot. I set the temperature control to just below hot and the burner came on. Bear with me guys, but Ive been whacked in the mellon for over 16 years, and am blessed that I can actually type, and am a little bit mechanically inclineda little. The result: Make sure all the wires are connected, turn on the gas and follow the steps in your water heater owners manual to relight the pilot light. I had a power outage at my house and coincidentally (?) When I put it back in it blinked 7 times. w~{c=?Y=R}N',8+*Skw:,q7o{v%NnxpwQNZy ZpRe"n:o [KA8tX#aW:Y{HbTna+]U. No luck. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. Thx loreleaf for the post and pics. I had a similar experience on a WV8840B1059 getting the 4 flashes. Im looking for a replacement LPG gas control in Mexico (Im close to the border). Anyway, I bought that same heater (2 insulation) only a couple years ago. Its not very complicated, really. You can get the pilot to light by pressing this button, but unless you address the underlying problem, the chamber will overheat and the breaker will trip again. My storyAfter two years my Honeywell WV8860B1310 gas control valve failed. Its been a week since I reset the valve and everything seems to be working fine and I did not drain the tank. 5.0 out of 5 stars. Turner up temp control to hot, all is well. Regarding these Honeywell 9007884 Reliance 300 Series gas valves, the manual states that the HOT setting is 120F and the VAC (vacation) setting is 55F, but what temperature setpoint is the LOW setting? It cant flip up (actually it can if you try hard enough, but then youve probably broken it). Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. Wow, you are the man, I used old speaker wires, a doubleAand masking tape, I dont have any clips, followed your instructionsabout five times, nothinghappening,at one point I did touch the left pin with the positive and heard a click, after that thenext three tries it all worked like you said. I fitted the WH with a cheap garden hose when I installed it last year and ran the hose permanently to outdoors for convenience. They are the 3 thin metal posts that stick out beyond everything else in an upside down triangular V pattern. 40 gal, nat gas, no external attachments. I reset the temp to my standard setting and it heated up fine. I didnt mind to pay for the shipping cost, but, what I minded was the device was poorly made. My Honeywell WV8860B1309 failed after 2 years. Bought my Whirlpool at Lowes. If peoples replacement valves with the white indicator lights dont fail about the same rate as the old ones, maybe Honeywell has resolved the issue. It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Brand New. This time I followed the directions and got it back on myself(after 3 tries) but it wont remain on. BUT, the adapter for the wire harness only goes into the new board one way. Repeat these steps with the new gas valve. I believe I was getting 7 flashes until turning burner on and in a short time the flashes went to normal 1 flash. Thanks so much. So far its been working fine. The GE people walked me through a reset process over the phone and it fired right up. DB: Instructions are clear and hope to follow this to override the Honeywell piece of crap Gas Control Thermostat on my 2.5 year old 50gal tank. I will now start flushing sediment every quarter instead of annually. One has a red mode indicator (the older one) and a white one. Also, the white light version has NO COM connector. Reinstall the cover. The replacement valve I received also has a white sensor light instead of red, and it has a metal capped sensor instead of black plastic. I did however, use the no battery option submitted by Cranky Tenants which is a little easier. Wife took the 10 dollar shipping. Second water heater weve put into this location in 3 years, due to bad Honeywell controllers. I replaced the bad push button with the old one and did the Franken valve face switch. I also drained some water then flushed a lot. WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 No reviews $42999 FREE delivery Feb 27 - Mar 2 Or fastest delivery Feb 24 - 28 Small Business BW Technologies Yellow GasAlertMax XT II Portable Combustible Gas, Carbon Monoxide, Hydrogen Sulphide and Oxygen Monitor with Rechargeable Battery No reviews Here is the simple fix. Thanks. I reset it and it worked again for a few days. (With the three wire plug OFF and the pilot on I was getting a 7 code only.) For anyone who encounters valve control failure, as long as the problem relates to this particular Honeywell valve controller model (mine was model NU50T61-403), I suggest to go straight to David Boones instruction in this thread for resetting the fault. Far out. Other than that it looks the same from the exterior. the gas did shut off but it was drained for a vinegar cleaning. Resetting the #$%@!! Culminating in a permanent fault condition. Since waaaay too many folks have experienced this failure, and since it seems to be electronics related, and since Honeywell is sending out replacements willy nilly and asking for return of the defective valves, I suggest that the true culprit may be that some bonehead just programmed the software at too low a critical temperature. This suggests that the burner was on for a long time but just couldnt heat the water enough to satisfy the thermostat. Does the brains look at the voltage from thermopile to check for over heating or underheating? If that is the case, recommend that you do not short the leads as it can cause internal damage. One big question. This seems like a part that needs to be recalled and a Class Action Lawsuit filed. Now when the pilot starts and the pilot valve pulls in, and the status light starts blinking, look at the code. After refitting the cover and lighting the pilot again, this resulted in the 7 flashes as mentioned in another post. It may take a minute or so before the heating element comes on; be patient. The main burner would go out without being up to temp (it may of been shutting off on the high limit ?) Lessons learned eh? great write up, but I cant find this part anywhere. Started right back up. day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? 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