Both my kids were blue and they were gone. A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! I always wondered why she didnt fight back, too. Im convinced that he did the same to Shanann. But I am of course hoping that she was totally unaware in her unconsciousness. Remember that Chris was sleeping in the basement at this time so they werent sharing a bed. I think he was doing this so she would feel comfortable when she got home, and would be able to sleep. I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. Seemed to me like she kept everything clean that you could see. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? I remember one video where shes tasting one of the Thrive bars and effusing over how delicious it is, while one of her daughters cries with hunger in the background, and ShanAnn tells the poor child, No, you cant have this this is Mommys. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. In reading about this case it would never occur to me to smother somebody in such a fashion. I was married to someone, super attentive dad, husband. Or perhaps Chris had one with himself by way of rationalizing killing his family, although I dont think it was emotional. For example, someone with OCD could have the thought that if they dont touch a doorknob a certain number of times an exact way, they will get a disease. The childrens cause of death was given as asphyxiation due to smothering. Bella also had Blunt force trauma. Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. Once into the oil she gulped in the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge and died as a result of this as well as being unconscious. D: Oil, water and sludge debris was found in her stomach. To the extent on the spectrum that it played out is the horror. Make sense? She also wanted to make her marriage work. Also, in the 2-4 minutes it took him to kill Shannan, this father who would never hurt his kids, never looked at the visible baby bump and thought Im killing the baby too, I need to stop. Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. The plea deal meant that he was spared the death penalty, and was instead sentenced to multiple life prison terms without the possibility of parole. He probably wanted it done quickly and in the dark so he wouldnt have to see anyones faces, anything that might make him doubt what he is doing. As a woman, I never go to sleep with my bra on. Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. Its in the autopsy x. Thankyou. I approached an expert to get his take on it, and was a little disappointed by his findings: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. I think Chris pretended to be asleep because I think hes a coward and wouldnt have wanted to interact with her. Then he agreed to go to Aspen with her for the weekend following her death. @Lisa oh hell, if your description is an accurate one for a diagnosis of OCD, then I reckon I have it too! The reports also show that Shananns fetus had been expelled from her body, which was buried in a shallow grave. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. But, wait a minute, he is that selfish and only thinks of himself, and he is too much of a coward. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. They then start putting the idea in his head what happened, did one of the kids die & Shannan killed the other one & herself? In the 2000 page report that was released they pose the theory that she may have been asleep while attacked. After that, then everything started going bad and stressing him out. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? In the report, (link below) stories of financial devastation, destruction of relationships, and even murders and suicides paint a vivid picture of an industry built on lies and deception a business that focuses its greedy eyes on the naive and the vulnerable. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. Lastly and not related to your book, I continuously read people stating that the only bruises on Shananns body were the on the right side of her neck. 2 hours isnt going to bed or going to sleep. Hey, I appreciate ppls input but to act all high and mighty and be disrespectful of others by trying to make them look and feel like idiotsI dont care how much you know or how smart you are. Page 582, 6. Perhaps it is safer that the majority public dont know the facts. Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. So yeah sigh! She was pregnant some women have very sore breasts when pregnant and the bra adds support & comfort. Simply stated, you are an ignorant human being, Badmouthing the vicitm like that when she can not defend herself. Why would she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom and then put the tots right into full-time daycare? If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? I think he had mental issues too. Addendum: The cadaver dog wasaso very interested in the washing machine and his handler, Jayne, says quite clearly that her dog has scented death by the machine (check the K9 video, but watch the volume, the cadaver dogs bark is quite shrill! She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? They found nothing of any importance under her fingernail scrapings. No sign of that either. Ive been reading this whole thread and as I always respect other ppls views and opinions as much as I can, there is one contributor to this conversation that thinks they know everything sigh. Kind of comforting too if they were unconscious when murdered they wouldnt have died in fear and terror. If you believe that Chris didnt kill his daughters, then why on earth did he dump their bodies in oil tanks like they were trash? Also, he usually goes to the office in the morning and then goes out to the sites but the night before he called and told a coworker he was going to the site. He was a mechanic. Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. When asked if they were going to find any marks on her during his confession he said I dont think so and when asked why he said it was because she didnt fight back because I was in such a rage Tell me how that makes any sense at all? You can see it in his eyes. This is horrific, shocking, my mind is greatly troubled by this aspect. I believe it was to make her feel more at ease, able to sleep instead of up all night crying. Maybe some ppl just can only take so much. It would be good to hear your assessment of his assessment. C . Hello everyone, It would be tiring to lug it upstairs and she might not have wanted to make any noise. Please God Forgive me for everything.. what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids?. Unless you count her phone. The kids had two wack jobs for parents. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? I wondered what became of the gas can. Remember, she was pregnant. You may say murder itself is cowardice, but if youre the murderer, youre taking a huge risk, and if youre an introverted murderer, youre being your version of brave by physically confronting and attacking someone. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. Debbie do you have a link to that 411 Documentary please? How do THESE people know? Because you asked if I hurt her and I said no but I hurt her emotionally the agents said they already knew about Nikki which took Chris by surprise, he then realizes shes talked to the police. I actually don't understand this and would think the opposite would actually be true. I actually do not believe that there was any sedation to the girls or his wife. She said he was telling people he has to go to work and that just doesnt seem right. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. I hope he gets what he deserves while he is in prison!!!!!! That is simply a common misconception/stereotype that is very harmful and untrue. A trillion to bullshit thats what they are!!! He had strangled me while I was pinned down to the floor, face up. The DA explained that it is due to decomposition and the body breaking down. I did. And fyi, I am not going to use the actual pictures/videos in my project. He stated in a letter to the reporter woman that he remembers her face streaking with mascara and blood filling her eyes. Correct. He had only a few friends. Unless youd take that as he was going on the run with them, which I highly doubt. Thats a harsh indictment to a woman who cant defend herself. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. Chris is a monster. She wouldnt have gone to bed without her phone. Unless I missed it? Her spouse has a religious obsession/addiction; I think youll see similarities. My youngest daughter slept in a bra as well. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. Straight up facts. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. Throw it away? Why was the oil/sludge found in Bellas stomach? Shanann Was Wrapped in a Sheet & Buried in a Shallow Grave That Watts Dug With a Shovel Police reportsThe crime scene. The cadaver dogs noted no presence of bodies in the basement however. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! And the decision to move Chris out of state as well? You know what they say, Sara.once you let your attacker get paper bags on your hands, theres no defending yourself. The only thing that could have screwed with this is that $69 charge to the Lazy Dog. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. He was photographed head to toe upon booking & was found to have no offensive wounds on him anywhere. He went from great dad to not wanting anything to do with them, me or any responsibilities. This guy had some sort of mental problem. Shannann even said that he was like another person. Also, wasnt her phone found in between couch cushions. In the interrogation CW was blaming Shannan for killing the girls, and in the next breath trying to protect NK. Shan'ann seemed to have a fairly mild case. With ShanAnn, IF she was attacked and killed shortly after she arrived home, while still downstairs, she would have still been dressed her underwear and pants would have caught it. Christopher was sentenced to life in pri 5 PM the previous evening, as many of us believe, then by the time he was ready to pass them through the thief hatches, theyd be pliable again. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? Its definately not most. I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. > Most do not, really? 1. Rigor mortis lasts 8-12 hours. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. Celeste was found face down in that oil tank. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." Colorado is very rural. They say: Chris told his father, She hurt them. So completely terrible.
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