Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. I'm guessing you're done. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. You are using an out of date browser. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. Below are abstractions of a true stories. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. So now I have to play stupid as if nothing happened at MEPS but clearly they know I said something at MEPS. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. Any help would be appreciated. No personally identifying information (PII). This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). . Hopefully by then youll be completely withdrawn from your meds. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. What is the worst that can happen? I had the surgery in august of 2014. Should I just wait for him to contact me? Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Disclose EVERYTHING. By logging into your account, you agree to our. Option 2: Lie. One new winner* is announced every week! I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). Am I in danger like my friend said? He told me not to worry about it and say "no". I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. Thank you for the quick replies. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? Tough but that is what it is when they find out. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Dont lie. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. You will never become a United States Marine. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. The cousin survived, and revealed she was deep in a gambling debt. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. JavaScript is disabled. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. Generally speaking, no. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. Because the military does not. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! #12. We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? He hadn't told them he had lasik. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. or "Do you have a history of depression? I had the active prescription but wasnt taking them. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. Privacy Policy. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. KUDOS! I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . You're still not getting it. 27. and our Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. ( https: //www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf completely withdrawn from your meds 11 posts it looks like you be... 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