Joker Beats Jason Todd to Near Death, Then Blows Him Up (Batman) Jason Todd was the unpopular second Robin who - in no small part due to his unpopularity - was beaten to a pulp by the. [69] After Jason defeats and captures the Joker; the villain becomes fixated on him. The bodies are taken back to Gotham City for burial. Warning: spoilers for Task Force Z #8 are ahead! False. The last decade has been a renaissance for Jason Todd, the second character to fill the role of Robin, the worlds most famous superhero sidekick. When Jason is the victim yet again of the Joker's personal war with Batman, the batfamily begins to tear apart at the seams. The two fight while Todd discusses the insanity of heroes for placing child sidekicks in danger. Except one guy hated Jason Todd (and the concept of Robin) so much that he voted for him every day (you were only supposed to vote once). ", Marv Wolfman(w), Dan Jurgens(a). Bruce Wayne sees to it that Todd is placed in a school for troubled youths, which turns out to be Ma Gunn's School for Crime. It's crystal clear now that he is on the dark side. He is later convinced by Damian Wayne to turn against Ra's when the latter takes it too far by using Amazo to slaughter millions. Please check your email to find a confirmation email, and follow the steps to confirm your humanity. Jason, ever the scrapper, only made threats in response to this. For many years following his brutal execution, the Bat-Cave featured his Robin costume in a display case as a memorial to him. Flamingo is assumed dead, although Commissioner Gordon reports that his body cannot be recovered from beneath the rubble. In 1988's "A Death in the Family" storyline, Jason Todd discovers that Catherine Todd was not his biological mother, and runs away to find the woman who gave birth to him. He was brutally beat to death with a crowbar by the Joker and Kiki Roulette. [15][16], Before the release of Batman #617 (September 2003), a page of art from the issue by artist Jim Lee circulated on the Internet, apparently revealing the mystery villain Hush, who was the focus of Lee and writer Jeph Loeb's "Hush" storyline, as a resurrected Jason. If someone else wanted to tell another Jason story or bring him back and we at least opened the door, that's great! [54] Later, however, the Wingman ruse is exposed and Todd returns to being Red Hood. [32] He hijacks a shipment of Kryptonite from Black Mask, and in the midst of a battle with Batman, Nightwing and Mr. Subsequent portrayals commonly depict Todd as an . Rather, it became a central part of the psyche of Batman stories for over two decades. That wanted man turns out to be the Joker. Dick ordered Alfred to simply toss it in the river. Timothy Drake eventually takes up the bat mantle when Dick Grayson refuses to and sets off to fight Todd, who easily defeats him. He then proceeds to fall back into his hero persona, ranting how he did what Batman never did. Beaten within an inch of his life by the crowbar-wieldingJoker,Red Hoodsurvived only to be killed by a bomb the villain left behind. Jason stayed dead for years until he was resurrected as Red Hood in 2004. When Batman expresses no remorse for sparing Joker's life after the second Robin was killed, Todd is further angered and takes up his murderer's original mantle. The previous issue included an advertisement asking Batman readers to call a dedicated hotline and vote on whether they thought Jason Todd should survive his encounter with the Joker. Bruce took the body back to Gotham and buried it. [50] He was a part of the order for an unknown amount of time before he was exiled, partly of his own will. Red Hood and the Outlaws debuted in September 2011, written by Scott Lobdell and with art by Kenneth Rocafort. Between one agonised, gasping breath and the next, Jason was awake and staring up at a woman in a cave: his grandmother, Lavernai Pocolom, Roman Goddess of Thieves and Cheats, and Etruscan Goddess of the Underworld. When the Dealer's Black Mirror auction practice caught Batman's attention, the crowbar was one of the items available for Gotham's (sick) elite to bid on. Considering the Joker is the one narrating this segment, it is open to debate whether he is telling the truth or not. The primary inspiration for the canonical death of Jason was the limited Elseworlds series Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, written and illustrated by Frank Miller, because the futuristic story contained references to Batmans deceased partner. Jason Todd resumes his persona as the Red Hood and appears in several issues of Green Arrow alongside Brick as part of a gun-running organization, which brings Batman to Star City. Even when the superhero death/resurrection cycle exploded in the 1990s and after, there was a time when Jason was counted among the most hallowed of comic book deaths, alongside Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, and Batmans parents themselves. Jason had to kneel in front of thisthis monster as he laughed and jeered at him, swinging a crowbar around and beating him with it. Heres the complete page that panel was from, the unused page 10 of Batman #428. He is prone to defying Batman's orders, sometimes to success (bringing in the Scarecrow singlehandedly) and sometimes to failure (botching a raid on a drug lab by jumping the gun too soon). It was erected in the Batcave following Jason's death at the hands of the Joker and has since become a staple of the Batcave; even staying . The series eventually ended coinciding with the DC Rebirth event. Todd is also left wondering if perhaps he would have been a better Robin and better person had he had had a life like Drake's and friends like the Titans. Enter the URL for the tweet you want to embed. [58] He subsequently learns of his history from Starfire's computer, which states Red Hood has made 83 confirmed kills. You expert, rootin'-tootin', eagle-eyed, Goth-loving marksman! agents launched an attack on HYDRA's base, Deathlok was sent to confront them, where he spotted his former mentor, Moonwing, and attacked him from behind. Todd then offers Batman an ultimatum: he will kill Joker unless Batman kills Todd first. This led to a blackout of almost any Robin appearances in Detective. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Said, Schaefer: Well, Geoff's idea was to have Red Hood be the Jason Todd of Earth-Two. One day, while wandering Gotham, Jason Todd (now well . Upon learning that the man training him in lethal combat is also the leader of a child sex slave ring, Jason frees the latest shipment of children and takes them to a local embassy, then returns to the training compound and poisons his new mentor for his crimes. When Joker tricked Robin (Jason Todd) to fall into his trap, his weapon of choice in dealing with him was a crowbar. Read Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying here. The Death of Jason Todd By: Katie Trillion. Instead of being trained by various men after his return from the dead, Jason Todd was trained by an order of warriors known as the All Caste. The Joker, on the other hand, would occasionally remind Batman of this loss to torment him. To top it off, Essence shows that the order of the All Caste, the people most qualified to handle the situation, have been slaughtered, leaving her and Jason as the only known survivors. This was not because ONeil or any of the other Batman office staff disliked the character, but because their readership seemed so divided on him. RT @DatingSims: 'You watched Joker beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar and did nothing?' 28 Feb 2023 05:42:38 Joker beats the boy brutally with a crowbar and then leaves him and Sheila in the warehouse with a time bomb. Todd is arrested by Gordon who informs him that the reason he has always worked with Batman is that Batman never violates the law "where it counts". He only donned the suit when Two-Face trapped both senior vigilantes in a collapsed building, and he declined to don it again without Batman and Nightwings permission. [59], Following the conclusion of the first volume of Red Hood and the Outlaws, a new series starring Red Hood teaming up with Arsenal as heroes for hire began entitled Red Hood/Arsenal. After successfully capturing Joker (who fails to recognize him due to being older), Jason contemplates burning his killer alive after dousing him with gasoline. [45], Jason files an appeal to be moved from Arkham Asylum where he has been held for observation for the last several months. Batman decided to relieve Jason from his duties as Robin in order to allow him to mourn the death of his parents. Jason Todd appears in Batman: The Adventures Continue, a comic book series set in the continuity of the DC Animated Universe. But the poll couldnt be just any question. Batman admits that he has often been tempted by the thought of taking the Joker somewhere private to torture for weeks before finally killing the maniac, but says that he refuses to go to that place. Batman and Robin attempt to chase him, but Red Hood tells them that he planted bombs over Gotham City months ago. The Many Deaths Of Jason Todd. Cameron Waldrop Jason Todd's Scar in Gotham Knights Explained The whole story of the scar can be seen in the A Death in the Family arc in the Batman comic (Volume 1, Issues 426-429) which includes a deadly attack on Jason Todd (as Robin) by a crowbar-wielding Joker. Just . But itll be quite some time before Jason manages to eclipse the story hes most famous for. Batman arrives too late to save them and finds Jason's lifeless body in the rubble. This is a reenactment of Robin's death from the comics. He was resurrected by Talia al Ghul using the Lazarus Pit, and then trained by both the League of . The description given was that it came from Beirut, Lebanon and was a former possession of the Joker. [75], In the Bombshells United storyline, Kate Kane and Renee Montoya meet Talia al Ghul and Cheetah in an underground labyrinth. Out of all the characters who have put on the Robin suit, Jason is the one who died in it. Or was he an annoying pest, unfit to wear the mantle that Dick Grayson had made so legendary? His detective and reasoning skills were considered weak despite showcasing some potential. It was released on June 15, 2016. With Red Hood still characterizedbyhis rage at criminals, it seems this reframing of his deathcontinues to dictate how he's characterized. As Moonwing, he made a careless mistake, which resulted in a S.H.I.E.L.D. For a time Natalia Knight, the criminal also known as Nocturna, Mistress of the Night is a stabilizing influence in his life; she becomes his surrogate mother and even adopts the young Todd. All of the henchmen die, and Garzonas is finally crushed by a pile of junk cars. Indeed, inScott Lobdell and Dexter Soy's Red Hood and the Outlaws #5, even Todd describes himself as "someone who was beaten to death with a crowbar.". Jason was well and truly dead for some time. "Most Suitable Person", The All-New Batman: The Brave and the Bold, "Why They Endure: Pros On TIM DRAKE's Rise Up the Bat-Ranks", "Behind Batman: Battle for the Cowl Part Two", "Exclusive: Dick Grayson Returns as Nightwing", "DC REBIRTH First Look: RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS Retells JASON & BATMAN's 1st Meeting", "Dark Knight Returns: The Last Crusade: John Romita, Jr. Discusses His New Dark Knight Comic", "New Batman DVD to peek out from 'Under the Red Hood' Hero Complex Los Angeles Times", "Warner Bros. His weapons of choice are a pair of customized IWI Jericho 941s, fitted with extra Picatinny rails and mini red-dot sights. It contains the late-hero's costume with no visible body, sometimes shown to be held up by wires. Sheila herself has been embezzling from the aid agency and as part of the cover-up, she hands her son, having arrived as Robin, over to Joker. Grayson then comes to the rescue and refuses to believe Todd when he claims he has killed Drake (which he had not since current Robin Damian Wayne rescued Drake at the last moment). You managed to find a way to win. Jason Todd's death is often attributed to the Joker beating him with a crowbar, but Task Force Z #8 clears up this misconception to the Bat-Family. The full page reveals more, including the arrival of Dick Grayson to Jasons hospital room although a penciled note in the margins says to strike him, and redraw the panels in favor of having Alfred in the scene instead. Tim, named for Tim Burton, director of the new but not-yet-released Batman motion picture, was a bright kid whod been in the circus audience the night Dick Graysons parents died. However, there are several stories where Jason Todd misremembers the details of his own murder. The death of Jason Todd, also known asRed Hood, is one of the most dramatic moments in the history of DC Comics. During his journey, Jason discovers his Robin replacement was Timothy "Tim" Drake, which further torments him. Austin Mace is a freelance writer for the Screen Rant Comics team focused primarily on pre-Crisis DC Comics issues. any Comic Vine content. Navigation. He was then caught in an explosion when the villain Hyena detonated a bomb intended to kill Bruce and Dark Claw. The things that he does here in Battle for the Cowl are things that can never really be forgiven. Within the 36 hours allotted for voting, the poll received 10,614 votes. Red Hood is right for clearing up details about his death, especially given the ways that his character has been defined byvictimhoodin some Joker-related stories. Red Hood assumes control over several gangs in Gotham City and starts a one-man war against Black Mask's criminal empire, who himself had recently murdered a Robin (Stephanie Brown). At the end of Batman #427, Jason was beaten by the Joker and left to die in an explosion. I think there was even talk of his possibly being Deathstroke's Robin.[71]. This team is referred to as DC's "Dark Trinity" in comparison to the new Trinity series included in DC Rebirth which follows Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. What I wanted to do here is put him in a place that he can't come back from. Batman didn't get to him in time and Jason died in the explosion. He then unmasked Moonwing and accused him and Logan of abandoning him. Later, at Duela's funeral, Jason hides until all of the Teen Titans have left except Donna Troy. As Gordon leads him away, Todd tauntingly asks Grayson why he has not put Wayne's corpse into a Lazarus Pit to bring him back, citing his resurrection from its bath. This highlights an earlier exchange in Batman #422 where he uses excessive force on a pimp about to slash one of his working girls and Todd asks Batman if it would have been a big loss if he had killed him. Batmans reaction was to become enraged to the point that it is heavily implied he will start breaking his no killing rule. After the Joker again escapes from Arkham Asylum, Jason tracks his whereabouts on his own and is brutally beaten to death by the Joker's men under his order.[70]. "Notes from the Batcave: An Interview with Dennis O'Neil. Initially sharing a similar origin to Grayson, his character was rewritten after the Crisis on Infinite Earths event. Having learned that Tim defeated the Joker by himself in their first fights, Jason seeks to best him in combat. Related: Batman Fans Were Right to Vote for Jason Todd's Death. Jason kills the creature, strengthening his resolve. Todd and Drake are confronted by another Red Robin in Robin (vol. The bomb counts down. During a battle with a group of Monarch's soldiers, Earth-51 Batman is killed by the Ultraman of Earth-3, deeply affecting Jason. Throughout the earlier issues of the series, Jason appears as a mysterious, shadowed figure constantly spying on Batman and his allies. He also learns that the man teaching him bomb-making is involved in a Russian mafia-backed deal meant to push the resources of British law-enforcement away from mob crime and onto Islamic extremist terrorism with a framed bombing plot. Answer (1 of 13): The bomb. Similar to his mainstream counterpart (Post-Crisis on Infinite Earths), this version of Jason was originally a young orphan living on the streets and met Batman while attempting to steal the Batmobile's tires. But from this point on for Jason, the gray area between good and bad has disappeared. This reckless act was motivated by a selfish desire to protect his secret identity even at the potential cost of Jasons salvation. He then revealed that he's been waiting a long time to kill both Dick and Logan. [31] Shortly after the events of "War Games" and just before "War Crimes", Jason Todd reappears in Gotham City as the Red Hood. But what if Jason Todd had lived? At the last moment, Batman throws a batarang at Todd, which bounces off a pipe and sinks into his neck causing him to drop his gun. The answer is a mix of new technology and tradition. "[11] A few comics creators voiced their displeasure at the event. Dick tells Barbara that Jason was Bruce's favorite. Wingman temporarily allies himself with Damian Wayne, who is using the name "Redbird" at the time. The story, written by Judd Winick, concentrated on Jason Todd's lost years of globe-trotting and training after his death and resurrection before his return to Gotham . In this version, we're going to make the scene longer. This trauma has lingered within the heroes ever since, and it may have finally just broken one of them once and for all. But the war goes on. About six months after Jasons death, ONeils Batman office introduced Tim Drake, created by writer Marv Wolfman and artist Pat Broderick. [53], Todd has also been revealed to be a member of Batman, Incorporated, initially operating under the name of Wingman, an agent-based in Europe. But what sequence of events led to the killing of a boy wonder? Hed deduced all on his own that Batman and Robin were Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson, followed their careers with relish, and noticed when Batman began to lose himself in grief after Jason Todds death. The two are then attacked by the Forerunner, but before she can kill them, the apologetic Monitor stops her and recruits Jason and Donna for a mission to the Palmerverse, a section of the Nanoverse discovered by Ray Palmer, in an attempt to find Palmer. Task Force Z#8is available now from DC Comics. [44] In the issue, Todd is characterized as increasingly unstable and his idea of "finishing off" Batman and Robin now consists of stripping them down to their underwear and exposing their identities via webcam activated by a phone poll [a nod by Morrison to his death poll]. However, Todd's actual body is missing from its grave. Alfred Pennyworth refers to Jason as wanting "to be redeemed" through his membership. [64][65] It is also expressed that due to his resurrection at the hands of the Lazarus Pit, the character possesses a few magical abilities. Staff at the company had been toying with the idea of using a then-cutting edge phone-polling system to allow DC readership real input on a story. Jason was trained by Batman and later became the second Robin, but he was beaten and tortured by the Joker, who sent Batman a video of the event and lied by telling him that Jason was dead. She also hires the same carpenters who built Jason's casket and had them build a replica of it (the original was destroyed and beyond repair after Jason emerged from it). So he'd be this kid, who wanted to be Batman's sidekick. The two start on very friendly terms. [48], In September 2011, The New 52 rebooted DC's continuity. Austin's goal is to provide ScreenRant with detailed articles that showcase his research into obscure corners of the comics universe. Jason's mother is already dead by now and his father is serving a life sentence in prison, so he has been living on the streets. Jason Todd is one of DC Comics' most polarizing characters. For a time, through Talia al Ghul's access to Kord Industries,[32][67] as well as being LexCorp's former CEO,[68] Jason has access to high-level weaponry and advanced computer equipment and gadgetry. As he points out inTask Force Z #8 (fromMatthew Rosenberg, Jesus Merino, Jack Herbert, and Vicente Cifuentes), Jason died putting himself between the bomb and his mother,hoping that he would serve as her shield, and it was this which represented his final, heroic act. In the published version of Batman #428, the same page depicts Jasons funeral, where Alfred asks Bruce if he should get in touch with Dick Grayson. Jason was something very familiar in our current age: The first rebooted version of an idea backed by 40 years of fan nostalgia. Even Red Hood Has Forgotten How Joker Actually Killed Him, Red Hood Writer Talks Jason Todd's New Chapter, New Robin & More, Jason died putting himself between the bomb, DC Hints Red Hood's Bat-Family Reunion Has Been A Lie. If you want more information, we tell more of the story below. This reading order contains all the essential and recommended comic book issues for you to enjoy Jason Todd. When the Morticoccus virus is released from Karate Kid's body, he is forcibly brought back to the group by Kyle, much to his dismay. He knows that both he and Donna Troy have come back from the dead, even already deducing that his resurrection has something to do with Alexander Luthor, Jr.'s plans during Infinite Crisis, and wonders which of them is next on the Monitor's hit list. This provides Jason an opportunity to plant a bomb beneath the Batmobile while Batman is on a stakeout for the arms deal. Jason spares Joker and decides to wait for the right opportunity. Overall, he strives to take over Gotham's gangs, control their activities, and kill Joker in revenge for his death. Todd's death continued to haunt Batman afterward, as he considered it his greatest failure. Ironically, it seems Jason wouldve preferred Batmans reaction to Dicks presumed death over a morbid mannequin in a Robin costume. ", The Uncanny X-Men and The New Teen Titans, Teen Titans Go! In 1988, that's what fans did to Jason Todd. One of the most shocking moments in DC Comics continues to be the death of Jason Todd at the hands of the Joker in Batman: A Death in the Family. Batman would take Jason back to the mansion to help his injuries.. After waking up, he is greeted by Ace, Alfred, Bruce, Dick, and Barbara.He sees a new side of Bruce, seeing him as a . Jason Todd is the titular central antagonist of the 2010 animated film Batman: Under the Red Hood, and the main protagonist of the 2020 animated interactive follow-up Batman: Death in the Family . [22] Batman notes that while Todd doesn't possess Dick Grayson's natural athleticism and acrobatic skills, he can become a productive crimefighter by channeling his rage. Faking his death, even tho I'm sure he died. In the second story arc of Batman and Robin by Grant Morrison and Philip Tan, Jason Todd retakes the Red Hood mantle after losing his bid to become the new Batman. . [79], In the Batman: White Knight continuity, Jason Todd was the first Robin rather than Dick Grayson. Todd acts as leader of the Outlaws, a group of antiheroes that "have several different exciting characters from the DC Universe some we've seen before and some we haven't," Batman Group Editor Mike Marts said. Jason Todd is well known within the DC Comics universe as the second person to take on the identity of Robin, junior partner of Batman. Additionally, Red Hood's actions in Task Force Zare indicative ofJason Todd's stubborn and rebellious nature, traits reflected in the fact that the Joker never succeeded in killing him withthe crowbar. #RedHood #LEGOBatmanGame", "Injustice mobile game update adds Reverse-Flash, Arkham Knight, Survival Mode and more", "Excited to announce that I play #RedHood in @InjusticeGame! Upon meeting another man who had previously been brought back by the Lazarus Pit and had turned into a Minotaur, he realizes a similar fate will befall him the longer he stays alive. In 1988, Robin died. In it, Batman cradled Jasons battered body, his face raised to the sky in a rare smile, the tonal opposite of the published image, in which he sorrowfully lifted Jasons corpse. Sharrett, Christopher. There was a degree of discontinuity between the Batman and Detective Comics titles with regards to the portrayal of Jason. The death of Jason Todd, also known as Red Hood, is one of the most dramatic moments in the history of DC Comics. Winick explained that after his initial arc on the Batman title, he suggested doing "something big" to his editors. Joker : [finally ignites the lighter] Well, here's to warm memories! Following the events of Death of the Family, Bruce and Alfred care for a sick Jason in the Manor, culminating in a warm embrace between Jason and his father figure as he regains consciousness, suggesting that their animosity might finally be put to rest. Housed in DC Comics archive in Burbank, California, are four of those unfinished pages, which I was lucky enough to view on a visit in the summer of 2019. This second Monitor apologizes to Jason before they both disappear, leaving Jason alone with Duela's body. It had to be one that DC editorial genuinely wanted reader input on, and since each phone call would cost a reader all of 50 cents it had to be one that fans genuinely cared about. This became especially apparent after his death. Trivia Dressed in a version of a Batman costume, Todd is also living/operating out of an abandoned Gotham subway system. In Batman #425, the Dynamic Duo is challenged by Felipe's father, who kidnaps Commissioner Gordon in retaliation for his son's death. Batman himself would slowly grow to accept Tim as his new partner, although the memory of Jason would play a heavy part in how Batman trained Tim in the months building up to his official appearance as Robin. The Death of Jason Todd ( From Under the Red Hood) - YouTube The Joker beats Jason Todd (the Second Robin) with a crowbar, ultimately leaving him half-dead on the warehouse floor.. to attend college. He confirms to Hush that Riddler is correct and that Bruce Wayne is Batman. 2) #25-26, where Jason went solo after his team disappeared and the title was changed to Red Hood: Outlaw. Published Sep 18, 2021 Jason Todd's murder by the Joker has been revisited in recent DC Comics stories, and he deserves more than to be defined by his most traumatic moment. This certainly seems to allude to the idea of Jason Todd having existed in the timeline of Earth-Prime, and seemingly having undergone the events of "Death in the Family", the infamous and oft . The Joker beats Jason Todd with his crowbar, ultimately leaving him half-dead on the warehouse floor. The last decade has been a renaissance for Jason Todd, the second character to fill the role of Robin, the world's most famous superhero sidekick. Shortly afterward, Todd leaves New York City and the Nightwing mantle to Grayson, along with a telegram telling Grayson he has returned to normal and still considers himself a gift from Batman.[36]. Winick said, "I was less interested in the how and the why and the what of Jason Todd returning from the dead than I am about what Jason's return will do to Batman. 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